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Poster: ksantilli Date: Jan 23, 2007 6:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: I Wish....

As I look at my DVR recording of "Dead Ahead" I often see Jerry smiling and just think that is awesome. He loved to play music and was able to make a living at it.(Well, eventually) I hope to one day be as happy at my job too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not crying in my Cheerios, but man that dude had some passion and was able to express that through his guitar. A friend of mine, whom is also incredibly talented, says that he(my friend) is just the vehicle through which the song is played. I don't beleive that was the case for Jerry. After a minute amount of research I beleive that Jerry was trying to blow the audiences mind each night and he played with that goal. As far as I am concerned, he was/is highly successful.

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Poster: Robony Date: Jan 23, 2007 7:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

I love in the GD movie druing PITB where the close up is of Jerry's face. He is simply not there. He's traveled to where ever the music is and he is a vehicle of the sound. Others who really mastered this were (of course) Jimi, Carlos and SRV.

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Poster: elkdog Date: Jan 23, 2007 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

Not that they are in the same league as each other, but John Coltrane, Keith Jarrett, and Trey Anastasio (at least in the 90's when I saw him... just feels funny to mention him in this sentence) all clearly wee channeling something. Trey has articulated this before, too, though it can be harder to sense unless you see him play. He certainly took his audiences places, though. A Love Supreme, One Up One Down, or any of Jarrett's solo concerts are pretty much documents of this phenomenon, and the inspiration translates to the recording quite nicely.

This post was modified by elkdog on 2007-01-23 23:20:18

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Poster: ducats Date: Jan 23, 2007 6:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

a 20 year old female that worked for me asked "what is it about them that makes you so crazy about them" - besides my usual you either get it or you don't answer I explained it was all about the music and more specifically the passion that oozed from Jer

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 23, 2007 6:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....here we go again.

Within a few short posts, we are rightly at the same old junction: why and what makes us the way we are?

I still don't know, but enjoyed the posts above, which hit on the essence to some degree...but I simply CANNOT answer as to what makes us (me) able to listen to 10-12-68 (insert your own fav) once each day for weeks at a time without getting tired or psychotic or arrested...there just are no other bands that have that effect on so many people.

Yes, it's Jerry, but also Phil, the drummers...others? Not sure.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 23, 2007 6:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....here we go again.

To flesh out my post above, like you say "Why is it I can look at a DaVinci or Rembrandt or Picasso or Monet over and over and always see something new? How is it that I can listen to the Brandenburg Concertos over and over and never get bored?" True artists have that ability to make the same thing seem new each time you see/listen to/read/feel/taste it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 23, 2007 7:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....here we go again.

Good anal o gee (sorry, just struck me as I was mis spelling that word). I can ALWAYS find something new in 10-12-68.

Why can't others experience this with other bands? Our boys really are that different? That special? I love, absolutely love CREAM and WINWOOD, and they are masters, BUT I cannot listen to them 24/7...

Just don't know why.

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Poster: ksantilli Date: Jan 23, 2007 8:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....here we go again.

Without getting too deep I have 2 responses to your posts:
1. I too really have deep feelings for other stuff-Cream and Traffic being fine examples- but not quite the same as my feelings for the Dead. They hit me at a very deep level, an emotional level.
2. I think that alot of other bands have similar followings, sort of. Maybe not quite to the same extent, but certainly I'm sure there is somebody out there whom has seen Avril Levine 100+ times. Growing up in the DC suburbs I have seen Jorma and/or Hot Tuna waaaay more often than I have seen the Dead. But I never would have gotten in a car with 4 other dudes and travel 8-9 or more hours to see a show or spend weeks on the road.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 23, 2007 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....here we go again.

Yep; it is interesting...agree with all of your input.

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Poster: Zooomabooma Date: Jan 24, 2007 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

"After a minute amount of research I beleive that Jerry was trying to blow the audiences mind each night and he played with that goal."

One show comes to mind where I believe this was *not* the case -- 10/27/91 Oakland.

Driving over from Salt Lake we'd heard the news that Bill Graham had been killed. Snow had closed I-80 through the Sierras by the time we hit Reno so we found a motel room to wait out the storm. A more somber night in Nevada I never had. No bars, no casinos, just veggin' out, smokin', listenin' to some tunes, ready to hit to road at first light for a stop in Santa Rosa before heading back over to the Coliseum.

The scene in the lot felt pretty blue. We headed in early to get a good spot on the floor and the excitement started to build. I remember volleyball at the back of the floor opposite wreaths -- one on each side -- of the stage.

When the boys came out and they went into Sugar Mags to open the show, well, it was another fun night with the Dead. Sugar Mags opener?! I love the rare stuff and that was and darn sweet! But soon the feeling morphed back into something a little heavy, most definitely weighted down by Bill's death . . . the show was a wake.

From down in the Phil Zone, I remember watching Jerry almost exclusively throughout the night.

He wasn't playing for me. He wasn't playing for anyone in that arena that night. Jerry's heart was broken for the passing of his friend Bill Graham. Jerry played for Bill and for Bill alone . . . we may as well not even have been there.

To me, that show was like no other that I have seen.

Just thought I'd share.

Garciya Later!

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Poster: ksantilli Date: Jan 24, 2007 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

Thanks for the story. I think you have correctly deduced that my research was a couple of interviews and a bunch of shows. I think it is a great example of Jerry being a vehicle of whats inside of him, I will have to check out the show with that in mind.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 23, 2007 6:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

Having once played in front of an audience, I know I was simply trying to act as a funnel through which the power and joy of music which I felt was solidified and conveyed to the listener. It's my opinion that in the case of Jerry and other select musicians, they have the ability to take the power of music and not just pass it on, but also to shape and mold it in such a way as to intensify the effect, much like a gifted painter can take oridinary colors and combine them in such a way as to create an emotional experience, not just a painting. It's artists like Jerry and others whose ability to create such emotional experiences through their music who will be listened to for as long as people can be touched by music.

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Poster: ksantilli Date: Jan 23, 2007 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

Man I can feel what you are saying. I think a great example is Joe Cocker's Woodstock version of "A Little Help From My Friends", I am not quite sure if Joe is in complete control of himself, yet it is one of the most powerful peices of music I have ever heard.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 23, 2007 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

while it seems Joe Cocker is spazzing out of control, notice when it comes to him singing, he's right up to the microphone delivering the lyrics in complete control

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Poster: ksantilli Date: Jan 23, 2007 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Wish....

Yep-my point exactly.